Friday, September 16, 2005

Apparently I know nothing *warning huge vent and swearing *

I just got my day 21 (7dpo) blood test results back.

Progesterone was 27
Oestrogen was 564

With progesterone, they consider anything above 10 as meaning you have ovulated, but on clomid I have read a good reading is above 30. It is better than last cycle. Oestrogen was about the same as last cycle.

Last cycle:

Progesterone was 16.5
Oestrogen was 562

When I got pregnant with Tukka my day 21 results were:

Progesterone 50.9
Oestrogen 421

So who knows. I suspect that this means I am not pregnant this cycle although my progesterone is better than last cycle. It isn't as good as when I got pregnant with Tukka. The only difference is that Tukka's cycle results were done at Monash IVF and the other two were done at Gribbles pathology through my GP. I have read that there have been pregnancies with low progesterone that have survived, so there is still hope, but I think I just know that it isn't good.

But - and this is the best part. I got a 20 minute lecture on the menstrual cycle from my GP.

Did you know that usually women have a 28 day cycle?
He also said that sometimes women have a slightly longer cycle. Really? How fascinating.
And - You always Ovulate 14 days before your expected period.
To achieve pregnancy all you have to do is babydance days 11 and 13 and that's it!

Oh - all this time and I got it wrong. NOT!

I was so F'n angry. I was at work, so couldn't let loose on him, but I couldn't believe that after nearly 3.5 years of trying for a baby, that he would think that we just weren't "doing it" at the right time. What the F does he think I have been doing all this time? How dare he even sprout such crap that isn't even true. Yes a perfect cycle is 28 days and in a perfect cycle you would ovulate 14 days before your expected period. But I don't have a perfect cycle. I have PCOS! My cycles vary. Not only that, but my luteal phase varies. It is never 14 days! Never. It goes between 10 and 12 days. Once it was 13.

Does he think we just have no idea??? He is the one with no idea. After so long trying. After all I have read. After seeing specialist after specialist after specialist. After test after test after F'n test. After surgery to check my tubes, etc etc. Does he seriously think our "infertility" will be solved by just a basic understanding of how a perfect menstrual cycle is? By just "babydancing" on the right days? Is he serious?

I was the one who told him what blood tests I wanted done. I even told him the damn pathology codes. Does he not remember that?

It made me feel like he thought I was overreacting by asking for the day 21 tests. Like I should just be patient and F'n babydance on days 11 and 13 and it will just happen. He said it in that gentle little voice adults reserve for the complete idiot. I know he meant well, but I felt like a total fool.

I won't be going back there for my blood tests. I will go through Monash IVF instead from now on. It may cost me A$105 for them, but I don't care. At least they don't treat me like some hypocondriac dickwadd that doesn't understand basic fertility.

I am so angry. So hurt.

Not only were the results telling me that I am most likely not pregnant, but he was telling me that I know nothing.

Well screw you Mr GP. Believe me, I know my body a hell of a lot more than you do. F. I probably know more about fertility than you do if your stupid comments were any indication.

ok time to calm down. As you can tell by my mood, AF is surely on it's way.

I am pre-menstrual. Don't mess with me.


At 8:19 pm, Blogger Lesley said...

I had the let loose AND SCREAM TALK on my female doctor about 9 or 10 months ago now. She just did not know a thing. Told me my pains were normal period pains. Just take tylanol and your cramps will disappear! It can't be that bad she said, it must be Normal period pain... That's what she said!
You know your body, not them.. They are just guessing. They know nothing..I can understand what your saying..
Love ya bugsy. Take care.. I wish and pray for things to get better ..
hugs from me.

At 1:00 am, Blogger PJ said...

How irritating! I hate it when docs think that you're incompetent and need to talk to you in that voice. You're not insane and don't need to be talked down.

At 8:17 am, Blogger Ova Girl said...

Infuriating. What about a letter of complaint Bugsy? They're got to be told.

At 10:17 am, Blogger Mama Mouse said...

Well gee whiz! And to hear the doctors talk they are PERFECT and know EVERYTHING! Luckily my doctor LISTENS to me ... and on a couple of occasions has let ME diagnose myself .... with the CORRECT one!

My periods were NEVER 28 days ... or even regular! I was ALWAYS guessing. I don't and didn't have PCOS either. That is just plain stupid of that dr to say that MOST women have 28 day cycles! And it was rude and insulting to tell you that, in effect, you don't know anything about what you are doing!

Hang in there ... it WILL happen, even if not this time!

At 11:28 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sorry; Each day at work I read how your life is going and I keep praying for you that things will have worked out for you. I don't doubt that they won't, they will happen, I just hope it comes sooner for you and hubbs. Go out and get a massage, facial, something nice this weekend. Relax if you can, and cry if you need, and know you have friends who care deeply for you.
Posted by Chrissie

At 11:50 am, Blogger Panda said...

What a fuckwad. I'm not surprised you're so angry about this. I'm quite sure that you have googled as much as the rest of us and probably have a far greater understanding of infertility and menstruation issues than that cockspank ever will.

At 12:01 pm, Anonymous MrsHUGS said...

Oh Bugsy you are so good at keeping your cool, even if I was at work I would have let loose at the GP for sure...

My thoughts are with you...


At 6:44 pm, Blogger Burnt Karma said...

Well! Your doc is plain wrong. Not every woman ovulates and gets her period exactly 14 days later. I know this for a fact because I am one of these women. I know for sure which days I ovulated because I was getting blood tests to pin point it, and then I'd get AF 10 days later.

But you already knew your GP was an idiot.

Get a new doctor, this one's an oxygen thief.

At 8:32 pm, Blogger muser said...

Wow... I am cranky with that guy too. When I was TTC the first time, I charted for 9 months and I had an LP ranging from 5 to 11 days. pfft to that doctor.

At 9:25 pm, Blogger Katt said...

Hun I am with Burnt Karma! Get a new GP. Man that guy sounds like he doesnt know his arse from his elbow!

I know a lot of people out there that have a lot of problems with Dr thinking they know better then the person either going through it or the parent of a child. Some are total idiots.

Huge hugs to you hun.


At 9:13 am, Blogger Jill said...

Bugsy, my GP was equally stupid and I haven't been back to her since Feb when I lost my baby at 13 weeks. I think it is normal for them to know nothing. Progesterone? What progesterone? UGH!!

Also, my OB is with Monash IVF on the Gold Coast and he also manages to get all my bloods bulk billed through Gribbles - even karyotyping which is $100s. Can they do that for you?

Can I ask if you have asked the units in which they are measuring your progesterone? We have a different system here. Actually it's the US that does. If your results are coming back in nmol/ml (nanomols rather than g/ml)) then you need to use a different scale. If you divide nmol by 3.2 you will get your US equivalent. So 27 on our scale is well under 10 in their scale. KWIM?

I made this mistake too thinking my prog ROCKED when actually it was borderline.

Best of luck Mate:)

At 3:56 am, Blogger Baby Dancer said...

What a crock! Despite the fact that any woman who has been trying to conceive for as little as a month knows it's not as simple as babydancing on days 11 and 13, we're not all the same. My ob-gyn even told me a month ago that everything has to be so perfect when you're TTC, she's surprised we're not an endangered species!


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